Interview
with Anne Stallybrass, Patrick Cargill
AND
Martin Jarvis
Theatrical Trio talk to “KT”
In a room over a pub in the
Kings Road, Chelsea,
a Forsyte, one of the Six Wives of Henry VIII and Father Dear Father
were deep in conversation.
They were, of course, three of
the most regarded actors in the country:
Martin Jarvis, Anne Stallybrass and Patrick Cargill, rehearsing
for “The Heiress” which opens at Bromley New Theatre next Monday.
In the play, an adaptation by
Ruth and Augustus Goetze of Henry James novel, “Washington
Square”, Patrick Cargill plays a domineering father, most unlike his
television role. Anne
Stallybrass, his daughter and Martin Jarvis her suspect suitor.
These three actors, with such
different styles and reputations, look like making a very impressive
team, from the little I saw of their rehearsal.
Afterwards they talked about their careers and attitudes to
their professions.
I shall ways remember Patrick
Cargill as an absolutely terrifying leather-coated Nazi in a
children’s television serial some years ago.
But he is probably best-known for his comic parts on the stage
- including 3¼ years and 150 performances in “Boeing Boeing” -
and on the television with his current “Father Dear Father”
success, and the series of French farces.
“I never wanted to be
anything else but an actor,” he told me.
“I used to tell people that and they’d pat me on the head
and say ‘He’ll grow out of it,’ but I never did.
“I started sweeping the
stage in a repertory theatre and was promoted to carrying the props
into the wings - but not on to the stage.
Someone much more senior did that!
My ‘big break’ came when I was actually allowed to say some
lines.”
He was fifteen years in
repertory before he started to get television parts.
“That was a long time ago … Yogi Bear was still perfecting
the technique,” he said wryly.
“I love television and I’m
very grateful to it, but the live stage was the whole point of
entering the profession. I’m
an old-fashioned square actor, I love the proscenium arch, red velvet
curtains and all the nostalgia.
“But don’t say I hate
television, or I’ll never get another job!”
This was a viewpoint shared by
all the three - that although they loved working in television and
films (“Not that anyone ever offers me parts in films,” said Mr
Cargill, who delights in self-denigration), nothing could beat the
stimulation of working in front of a live audience and eliciting a
response from them. They
explained that it was the fascination of playing a part night after
night, keeping it fresh and trying to get better.
Triple
Task
Martin Jarvis recalled the
time when he was working in three media at one.
“I was making a Dracula film in the mornings, recording
‘War and Peace’ for BBC radio in the afternoons and appearing on
the stage in the evenings. It
was exhausting but fascinating.”
Like his older colleague,
Martin started by sweeping the stage.
“When, after six months, he was still sweeping the stage, I
thought I ought to go to drama school.”
He went to RADA and then into repertory, for a time in Croydon.
He is the only one familiar with Bromley New, for he appeared here
last autumn in “Divorce in Chancery”.
Attractive Anne Stallybrass,
who played Jane Seymour in the Henry VIII series, also followed the
traditional course from college, the Royal Academy of Music, where she
took a drama course and left a qualified teacher of speech and English
- into provincial repertory.
They are all convinced that
this is the right way to start in the theatre.
“You don’t start learning until you leave drama school,”
said Martin. “You’re a
bit like a bicycle pump. You
spend three years inflating yourself until you think you’re
brilliant, then go into rep. And
whoosh, you’re immediately deflated.
You then spend the next fifteen years slowing inflating
yourself again.”
“It’s much better to get a
grounding in the live theatre,” said Miss Stallybrass.
“It’s far easier to get into films and television from the
theatre than vice versa. I
can’t understand students leaving college wanting to go straight
into films. I mean,
what’s the point? What
did they go to college for,” she said, displaying that enthusiasm
and love of the theatre that marked them all.
Said Mr Cargill, in one of his rare serious moments:
“The thing about this profession is that you never stop
learning - and never stop loving to learn.”
TV
Personalities
All three actors are
well-known figures on television and agree that they tend to be
typecast and not offered parts out of their established character.
Patrick Cargill: “You
have to accept it. If
someone thinks you’re good in comic parts you’ll always get them.
But that is one reason why I’m so happy to be doing this part
in ‘The Heiress’. For
one thing it is nice to think someone has enough confidence that I can
still do a grim part. I’m
really enjoying finding out if I still have my stern face in my
make-up box.”
Anne Stallybrass:
“That’s funny. It’s
exactly the reverse of me. At
college I always got the comic maid parts because I thought I was best
at them and now I’m longing to do comedy and all I’m allowed to do
is tragedy.”
Martin Jarvis:
“I always used to get the nasty public schoolboy part - a
real baddie - but ever since I started to do classic serials for the
BBC I’ve been getting all the nice boy parts, like Jon Forsyte.”
Ambitions?
Had they any unfulfilled
ambitions? “To get
another job after this,” joked Patrick.
“It might have been nice to be a barrister,” he mused,
“but then only the juicy cases, otherwise it would be deadly.
No, I think I’d like to play the piano like Peter Nero and
sing like Frank Sinatra.”
Anne Stallybrass said she had
too many ambitions to mention and Martin Jarvis confessed to a longing
to be able to play the cello.
But the immediate future holds
plenty of work for the three when they part after a three week run at
the New. Patrick Cargill
will be recording another thirteen episodes of “Father Dear
Father,” Anne will be taking part in a series called “The Onedin
Line” for the BBC, and Martin Jarvis is also hoping to be in a BBC
adaptation of Wilkie Collins, “The Moonstone”.
Last words about the success
of “The Heiress”. Anne:
“If it weren’t a challenge, you wouldn’t do it, would
you?”
Martin:
“The thing is, will we know the words by the first night?”
Patrick:
“Well, the play’s the thing, isn’t it?”
Anne
Avery
©
Kentish Times
16 April 1971
-
-
Copyright DiMar